The NAFC Life Without Leaks Podcast
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INFORMATION & INSPIRATION FOR THOSE LIVING WITH INCONTINENCE
Life Without Leaks is the National Association for Continence new podcast series. We discuss important topics for those living with incontinence, including hints and tips for better management, insights on state-of-the-art medical care and stories offering hope and guidance for those on the path to drier days. In addition to playing our episodes here, you can subscribe on all major podcast platforms – scroll down for links to your favorite.
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YOUR HOSTS
Sarah Jenkins
Sarah became NAFC’s Executive Director in 2024 after having served for nearly 10 years as the organization’s Marketing Director. In that role, she was responsible for a number of critical initiatives, including program development, patient outreach, industry relations, content creation and more. She comes to NAFC with substantial marketing expertise, having served most recently in a variety of roles with Abelson Taylor, one of the country’s leading medical advertising agencies. She holds a bachelor’s degree in business administration and marketing from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.
ROBIN STERNE
Robin and Steve may have actually crossed paths back at the Montreal Olympics – while he was in the water, she was working as part of the ABC film crew covering the event. Since then, she’s moved from Montreal to South Florida (though she still misses the bagels), and she’s dedicated her career to marketing, advertising and graphic design for some of the largest and most well known companies in America. In fact, she was responsible for designing Blockbuster Video’s very first website back in 1997!
BRUCE KASSOVER
Bruce has been working with the NAFC for more than 8 years with an emphasis on communicating the organization’s story of advocacy and support. He’s dedicated his 3-decades-long career to marketing and messaging, frequently with a focus on healthcare. An inveterate traveler, Bruce has been extorted by border guards in Moldova, thrown off a dog sled in the Arctic Circle, and snapped at by an unhappy sea lion in the Galapagos, among other adventures.
WHAT OUR LISTENERS HAVE TO SAY
“Finally learning about my condition on my way to work and figuring out solutions I would have never thought of …it’s like having that talk with a friend I wanted to have, but have been way to embarrassed to bring up! “
– Holly K.
“It’s great to hear patient stories in their own words – makes me feel like I’m not so alone when trying to deal with my bladder issues. Looking forward to more episodes!”
– Angela B.
“Instant subscribe! It’s hard finding good, reliable information about incontinence. Nobody ever seems to want to speak about it unless they’re talking in medical terms. I like that it’s easy to listen to but has useful info.”
– Chris F.
DO YOU HAVE A STORY TO SHARE?
We’re always looking for guests with interesting stories, insights, and perspectives to share with others in the incontinence community. If you’re a patient, a physician, or a caregiver who would like to participate in our podcast, reach out to us today – simply send an email to memberservices@nafc.org and we’ll follow up with you promptly.
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From Postpartum to Postmenopause: The Conversations Women Need to Have
In this episode of Life Without Leaks, we’re joined by Dr. Barbara Frank of Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, along with Alex Fennell, co-founder of Attn: Grace, an innovative manufacturer of incontinence products.
Together, we explore the realities of bladder leaks and pelvic floor health during pregnancy, postpartum recovery, perimenopause and menopause, and we discuss why more women are finally beginning to talk more openly about their experiences.
The conversation covers:
• The connection between hormones, menopause and bladder leaks
• Why pelvic floor therapy is having a major moment
• The surprising relationship between pelvic floor tension and incontinence
• How products can impact skin health, comfort and UTIs
• The truth about hormone replacement therapy
• Why community and conversation matter so much in women’s health
Alex also shares the story behind Attn: Grace and the company’s mission to create cleaner, plant-based incontinence products designed to support women with comfort, dignity and confidence.
Whether you’re navigating postpartum recovery, menopause symptoms or simply looking to better understand pelvic health, this episode offers expert insights, practical advice and an encouraging reminder that no one should feel alone in these experiences.

Ask The Expert: From A Doctor’s Perspective What Are Some Common Questions You Hear?
If you’ve ever sneezed and held your breath hoping for the best, you’re not alone. Bladder leaks, pelvic floor issues, and the constellation of symptoms that go with them are incredibly common — and incredibly under-discussed. We sat down with two of our favorite experts who are changing the bladder leak conversation: Dr. Barbara Frank, Attn: Grace medical advisor and board certified OB/GYN, and Dr. Sara Reardon, pelvic floor physical therapist (and the woman your pelvic floor has been waiting to meet). They took turns asking each other the questions their patients ask most — and answered them with the same candor they bring to the exam room. They cover everything from how to prepare for postpartum, to what question to ask your own pelvic floor PT, to how to manage incontinence during menopause. This is a knowledge drop you don’t want to miss.

How Aging Changes Bladder Control — What Most People Don’t Expect
As an RN who’s worked in geriatrics for over 14 years, I know first hand that changes in bladder control can be a common part of aging. However, what I’ve also learned is that the treatment and management of these changes differ depending on whether they are due to aging or other conditions.
If you’re experiencing more frequent trips to the bathroom or sudden, intense urges to urinate, you might be wondering what is going on and what you can do about it. Let’s talk through some of the changes that might be going on in your body and how you can be better prepared to manage your bladder control.