The NAFC Life Without Leaks Podcast
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INFORMATION & INSPIRATION FOR THOSE LIVING WITH INCONTINENCE
Life Without Leaks is the National Association for Continence new podcast series. We discuss important topics for those living with incontinence, including hints and tips for better management, insights on state-of-the-art medical care and stories offering hope and guidance for those on the path to drier days. In addition to playing our episodes here, you can subscribe on all major podcast platforms – scroll down for links to your favorite.
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YOUR HOSTS
Sarah Jenkins
Sarah became NAFC’s Executive Director in 2024 after having served for nearly 10 years as the organization’s Marketing Director. In that role, she was responsible for a number of critical initiatives, including program development, patient outreach, industry relations, content creation and more. She comes to NAFC with substantial marketing expertise, having served most recently in a variety of roles with Abelson Taylor, one of the country’s leading medical advertising agencies. She holds a bachelor’s degree in business administration and marketing from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.
ROBIN STERNE
Robin and Steve may have actually crossed paths back at the Montreal Olympics – while he was in the water, she was working as part of the ABC film crew covering the event. Since then, she’s moved from Montreal to South Florida (though she still misses the bagels), and she’s dedicated her career to marketing, advertising and graphic design for some of the largest and most well known companies in America. In fact, she was responsible for designing Blockbuster Video’s very first website back in 1997!
BRUCE KASSOVER
Bruce has been working with the NAFC for more than 8 years with an emphasis on communicating the organization’s story of advocacy and support. He’s dedicated his 3-decades-long career to marketing and messaging, frequently with a focus on healthcare. An inveterate traveler, Bruce has been extorted by border guards in Moldova, thrown off a dog sled in the Arctic Circle, and snapped at by an unhappy sea lion in the Galapagos, among other adventures.
WHAT OUR LISTENERS HAVE TO SAY
“Finally learning about my condition on my way to work and figuring out solutions I would have never thought of …it’s like having that talk with a friend I wanted to have, but have been way to embarrassed to bring up! “
– Holly K.
“It’s great to hear patient stories in their own words – makes me feel like I’m not so alone when trying to deal with my bladder issues. Looking forward to more episodes!”
– Angela B.
“Instant subscribe! It’s hard finding good, reliable information about incontinence. Nobody ever seems to want to speak about it unless they’re talking in medical terms. I like that it’s easy to listen to but has useful info.”
– Chris F.
DO YOU HAVE A STORY TO SHARE?
We’re always looking for guests with interesting stories, insights, and perspectives to share with others in the incontinence community. If you’re a patient, a physician, or a caregiver who would like to participate in our podcast, reach out to us today – simply send an email to memberservices@nafc.org and we’ll follow up with you promptly.
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Speaking Up About Incontinence
For many people living with bladder leaks, the hardest part isn’t the symptoms themselves.
It’s deciding to talk about them.
Bladder leaks can feel too small to mention, too embarrassing to explain, or not “serious enough” to justify a doctor’s visit. Many people quietly manage symptoms for years—adjusting their routines, limiting activities, and hoping things don’t get worse.
If this sounds familiar, you’re not alone. And you’re not wrong for feeling this way.

Incontinence by the Numbers
How common it is, why it’s increasing, and what an aging population means for patients and families
Incontinence is often treated as something people should keep private — but the reality is that it’s extremely common, and it affects millions of Americans every day.
As our population ages, especially with Baby Boomers entering older adulthood, more people are living with bladder and bowel control problems. That means more patients seeking answers, more caregivers providing support, and greater impact on families and the healthcare system.
Understanding the numbers helps reduce stigma — and reminds people that they are not alone and help is available.

You DON’T have to leak after prostate cancer treatment
In this episode, Dr. Eric Rovner addresses a common fear that men have about prostate cancer treatment: incontinence. Drawing on his clinical experience, Dr. Rovner explains that treatment does not automatically mean a lifetime of bladder leakage. In fact, only a small percentage of patients experience long-lasting symptoms. He discusses why temporary changes in bladder control can occur, what factors influence recovery and – most importantly – what men can do before and after treatment to reduce their risk and regain control. Our conversation offers clarity, reassurance and actionable guidance for men navigating prostate cancer care.